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Paradoxes
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Topic: Paradoxes
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Work [slavery], men&women, books, food, life as you see it.
Topic: Paradoxes
Total Posts: 11
Ziggo
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I'm looking for some paradoxes so if you have any then list them. Please.
Posted: 2004-04-02 19:10
M.O.A.B
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don't want to sound dull or nething but wot is a paradox neways?
Posted: 2004-04-02 19:17
Ziggo
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don't want to sound dull or nething but wot is a paradox neways? [img]/images/forum/smilies/icon_confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/forum/smilies/icon_confused.gif[/img] |
Posted: 2004-04-02 22:04
TheBlackCat
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Here is a classic one:
You come to a crossroads. You know in one direction is a town full of people who always tell the thruth, and in the other direction is a town full of people who always lie. However, you don't know which is which. There is someone from one of the towns standing at the crossroads. You want to find the town full of truthfull people, so you ask him where that is. He says it is to the east. Based on this information, do you go east or west? Alternatively, you want to find out what town he is from. He says he is from the truthfull town. Which town is he really from? (this, and it's many variations, is called the liar's paradox)
Here is another one with: The tortoise and the hare are racing. The hare wants to get to the finish line. However, before he gets to the finish line, he must go half way there. However, before he can go half way, he has to go half of that. And before he can go 1/4 of the way (1/2 of 1/2) he must go 1/8 of the way (1/2 of 1/4). And before he can go 1/8 of the way he must go 1/16. No matter how far he wants to go, he must always go half that distance first, all the way to an infitely small distance. So how does he move at all if he always must go half that distance first? (this is called Zeno's paradox) The clincher for this one is we know the hare can move, so there is something missing. I don't think this problem has been solved to everyone's satisfaction yet (and if it was it was in the last few years or so). Btw Zeno (or Xeno) was a greek philospher, both these paradoxes are ancient.
I doubt I copied these stories exactly as they were originally written. Nevertheless the actual paradox present in each of these is the the same as in the originals, I think, even if the application might be off.
You come to a crossroads. You know in one direction is a town full of people who always tell the thruth, and in the other direction is a town full of people who always lie. However, you don't know which is which. There is someone from one of the towns standing at the crossroads. You want to find the town full of truthfull people, so you ask him where that is. He says it is to the east. Based on this information, do you go east or west? Alternatively, you want to find out what town he is from. He says he is from the truthfull town. Which town is he really from? (this, and it's many variations, is called the liar's paradox)
Here is another one with: The tortoise and the hare are racing. The hare wants to get to the finish line. However, before he gets to the finish line, he must go half way there. However, before he can go half way, he has to go half of that. And before he can go 1/4 of the way (1/2 of 1/2) he must go 1/8 of the way (1/2 of 1/4). And before he can go 1/8 of the way he must go 1/16. No matter how far he wants to go, he must always go half that distance first, all the way to an infitely small distance. So how does he move at all if he always must go half that distance first? (this is called Zeno's paradox) The clincher for this one is we know the hare can move, so there is something missing. I don't think this problem has been solved to everyone's satisfaction yet (and if it was it was in the last few years or so). Btw Zeno (or Xeno) was a greek philospher, both these paradoxes are ancient.
I doubt I copied these stories exactly as they were originally written. Nevertheless the actual paradox present in each of these is the the same as in the originals, I think, even if the application might be off.
Posted: 2004-04-03 00:43
Ziggo
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Here is a classic one: You come to a crossroads. You know in one direction is a town full of people who always tell the thruth, and in the other direction is a town full of people who always lie. However, you don't know which is which. There is someone from one of the towns standing at the crossroads. You want to find the town full of truthfull people, so you ask him where that is. He says it is to the east. Based on this information, do you go east or west? Alternatively, you want to find out what town he is from. He says he is from the truthfull town. Which town is he really from? (this, and it's many variations, is called the liar's paradox) Here is another one with: The tortoise and the hare are racing. The hare wants to get to the finish line. However, before he gets to the finish line, he must go half way there. However, before he can go half way, he has to go half of that. And before he can go 1/4 of the way (1/2 of 1/2) he must go 1/8 of the way (1/2 of 1/4). And before he can go 1/8 of the way he must go 1/16. No matter how far he wants to go, he must always go half that distance first, all the way to an infitely small distance. So how does he move at all if he always must go half that distance first? (this is called Zeno's paradox) The clincher for this one is we know the hare can move, so there is something missing. I don't think this problem has been solved to everyone's satisfaction yet (and if it was it was in the last few years or so). Btw Zeno (or Xeno) was a greek philospher, both these paradoxes are ancient. I doubt I copied these stories exactly as they were originally written. Nevertheless the actual paradox present in each of these is the the same as in the originals, I think, even if the application might be off. |
Posted: 2004-04-03 09:30
M.O.A.B
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Ok i've got a question that can never be fully answered and can be used as an answer to almost everything : WHY?
Posted: 2004-04-04 08:14
Ziggo
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Ok i've got a question that can never be fully answered and can be used as an answer to almost everything : WHY? |
Posted: 2004-04-04 12:04
Ziggo
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here's an interesting one:
An arrow in flight is really at rest. Why?
An arrow in flight is really at rest. Why?
Posted: 2004-04-04 14:22
Ziggo
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And the answer is:
For at every point in its flight, the arrow must occupy a length of space exactly equal to its own length. After all, it cannot occupy a greater length, nor a lesser one. But the arrow cannot move within this length it occupies. It would need extra space in which to move, and it of course has none. So at every point in its flight, the arrow is at rest. And if it is at rest at every moment in its flight, then it follows that it is at rest during the entire flight.
For at every point in its flight, the arrow must occupy a length of space exactly equal to its own length. After all, it cannot occupy a greater length, nor a lesser one. But the arrow cannot move within this length it occupies. It would need extra space in which to move, and it of course has none. So at every point in its flight, the arrow is at rest. And if it is at rest at every moment in its flight, then it follows that it is at rest during the entire flight.
Posted: 2004-04-04 14:24
M.O.A.B
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Hey yeah thas pretty good!
Posted: 2004-04-04 17:57
Ziggo
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Hey yeah thas pretty good! |
Posted: 2004-04-04 22:23
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